Post by townmeadleftover on Aug 28, 2019 19:50:10 GMT
Must've been a few scared people in Bolton today as they finally stopped trying to out p**s each other and signed a deal, if nothing else I hope Bury being kicked out wakes a few daydreamers up, football is a business and people need to recognise that teams aren't above the real world
Simon; as you well know. Daryl will play for Crawley for nothing.
Jim Baker
He DID play for nothing... which was a clear breach of his contract & why he left us 24 hours prior to our...erm... "chairman" making that statement to the rapturous cheers of a bunch of ignorant sycophants... That is the problem.
Asset-strippers, tax-loss opportunists, money-launderers, crooks, con-men, vanity project lightweight glory-boys... they can all appear very credible when they are telling people what they want to hear... I bet the guy at Bury did, not so long ago...!
The EFL didn't even do the fit and proper person test on Dale such was their desperation to rid Bury of it's previous owner. So his takeover for £1 was waved through. Scandalous.
David Conn wrote about Bury's problems back in 2014 and how they were funding the club. Conn is an exceptional journalist and when he writes something the football authorities need to follow it up
It again shows the German model of fan owned clubs with strict financial viability tests is vastly superior to ours.
No one can convince me German fans don’t enjoy their football as much as we do yet our system is apparently better because it allows a few clubs at the top end to get investment from oil despots and other assorted billionaires who made their cash in basket case political systems. Not in my book.
Bury should be punished for taking the piss out of the rest of the division last year but the price paid by fans is ridiculously heavy. Good luck to their refoundation project which given the fan base I’m sure will progress well - see the likes of Halifax who are now not far from us again
Apologies if breaking any rules here but here goes chng.it/4KTjCmpy
Stating the EFL are corrupt within the petition page (Accept its an entry opinion) isnt great looking in my opinion. Each to their own but ive had people say to me when Ive discussed this (and I think this needs to be explored if only to dismiss) that clubs have to stay within spending limits etc and did Bury when they won the league getting promoted? Also the EFL cannot keep extending deadlines forever it makes a mockery of their reputation (Arguably not great anyway) and of the league structure. Perhaps some guideline of booting Bury out for this season placing their membership on hold and then the absolute deadline of say 2 months before start following season, no extension, no exceptions whatsoever and if they cannot guarantee taking part they are replaced etc.
Can’t argue with either of you, but as previously noted it’s fans, employees and businesses that bear the brunt.
but if we agree with Simon that Bury are cheats why then support their reprise?
Fair point. Guess I am looking from a Bury fan’s perspective. I’d not want Crawley to suffer a similar fate due to something that the fans arguably had little influence on.
is that entirely true Willo - at other clubs I seem to recall fans staging protests walking out refusing to attend matches etc., you no doubt know more than me but did this sort of thing happen at Bury?
Can’t argue with either of you, but as previously noted it’s fans, employees and businesses that bear the brunt.
but if we agree with Simon that Bury are cheats why then support their reprise?
When you spend millions you don't have, with players on £8,000 a week (according to BBC), it will eventually catch up with you.
The problems go back years, remember this is the club whose previous owner borrowed money from a loan shark at 10%pm interest. Doesn't sound a sharp cookie to me.
As I said, devastating for the supporters, however when you persistently live beyond your means then it ends in tears. Ask Aldershot, Hornchurch, Rushden, Telford and all the rest.
All the articles on social media expecting the PL, EFL etc to bail them out? Why? Should they bail out every club that is struggling with debt (53 of 72 clubs was reported somewhere)? Does that mean Crawley can run up millions in debt and then claim a bail out?
Borrowing £1m at 138%pa is not a great business strategy for any responsible individual... but when that loan is guaranteed by the Football Club using the ground as collateral... it was only ever going to end up where we are...!
Another crackpot Thad idea: Why don't the Premier League, PFA & EFL jointly operate their own credit union...?
They clearly have the funds & can review & reject applications for loans to members on their merit, including an applicants capacity for repayment...
...and as they channel significant income to their clubs, they have the additional benefit of being able to repay themselves as a priority creditor if necessary.
It is certainly preferable to expecting them to step in after it has all gone mammaries aloft...!
Essentially, the complaint is that with a - already extended - deadline looming, the EFL only considered one of three available tabled bids, all well & good, no one emerges with distinction...
...but it is wrong to focus on events & failings in extra time, when Ant can post a link to a well researched article from 5 years ago detailing the inevitable...
...they ALL sleepwalked their way to the gallows...!
Can’t argue with either of you, but as previously noted it’s fans, employees and businesses that bear the brunt.
but if we agree with Simon that Bury are cheats why then support their reprise?
Because it was the owners that did the cheating, not the fans. Ban the owners from football, job done. More than a division or two demotion for a reformed club is an excessive punishment as the deterrent value beyond that is hardly clear