Both teams made a halfhearted Take the knee stance. I’m sorry but I’m not in favour of this gesture, a minutes silence and perhaps the clapping is in good taste but taking the knee is a political protest as far as I am concerned. Are they expecting fans to follow suit, I do hope not.
TBH I didn't really notice - mightve been preoccupied drawing curtains to block the sun on the screen - anyway of course fans wont be doing this taking of knee and before long it will stop just like the NHS hand clap did.
I believe the QPR v Coventry City players did not “take a knee” and good for them. I hope other Club’s follow and stop forcing politics on to all and sundry.
I did not agree with Sky’s endorsement of BLM given how the movement has spurred complete chaos and they’ve now rebranded to “No room for racism” after the politics of that group came to light. The take the knee gesture has now pretty much lost its meaning, you get the occasional extremist being racist towards players and they are punished appropriately (e.g Chelsea sterling incident) however what the players are asking for is equal opportunities and that is out our hands as fans.
I am not even comfortable with"All Lives Matter"... stating the bleeding obvious just appears hollow to me.
In fact... I find the whole "gesture politics" movement a bit cringing... I feel that over time it ends up diluting the initial message, becoming trite, contrived, & even divisive.
Well... it appears that the time it takes to 'become divisive' is circa 3 months...!
I have concerns about taking a knee and about some aspects of BLM too. I was okay with it as a one-off anti-racism signal, but I prefer action rather than symbolism. Symbolism appears important to many, even though much of it seems irrational.
If someone like me is saying this, I can only guess at how someone less supportive is viewing it. One big concern I have is that if people feel it's being forced on them it could create a backlash, and the old saying springs to mind about paving the road to hell with good intentions.
Using football as a place to express opposition to society's ills has gone too far - maybe.
I did write a brief skit about it some while back - before the recent highlighting of (anti)racism. The gist of it was that the players were all standing around the centre circle and the referee blows his whistle and the players start clapping. When that finishes there's more applause for yet another cause. Applause and silence for all manner of causes drags on over ninety minutes. The ref blows the full time whistle and the players leave the pitch without kicking a ball.
TBH I didn't really notice - mightve been preoccupied drawing curtains to block the sun on the screen - anyway of course fans wont be doing this taking of knee and before long it will stop just like the NHS hand clap did.
Good example.
I was at Haywards Heath yesterday at the "Thank You NHS Stadium". All well and good, but there were plenty of other key workers too......
What's the problem? Racism is a scourge in society and has not gone away. It's good it gets highlighted in this way. When the players and clubs feel it's time to stop, they'll stop. Can't see how it should affect anyone here really
I have concerns about taking a knee and about some aspects of BLM too. I was okay with it as a one-off anti-racism signal, but I prefer action rather than symbolism. Symbolism appears important to many, even though much of it seems irrational.
If someone like me is saying this, I can only guess at how someone less supportive is viewing it. One big concern I have is that if people feel it's being forced on them it could create a backlash, and the old saying springs to mind about paving the road to hell with good intentions.
Using football as a place to express opposition to society's ills has gone too far - maybe.
I did write a brief skit about it some while back - before the recent highlighting of (anti)racism. The gist of it was that the players were all standing around the centre circle and the referee blows his whistle and the players start clapping. When that finishes there's more applause for yet another cause. Applause and silence for all manner of causes drags on over ninety minutes. The ref blows the full time whistle and the players leave the pitch without kicking a ball.
Agree mate, Virtue signalling and action are two different things
What's the problem? Racism is a scourge in society and has not gone away. It's good it gets highlighted in this way. When the players and clubs feel it's time to stop, they'll stop. Can't see how it should affect anyone here really
Despite the very important issues we saw at the Coventry v QPR game how the teams blamed each other for the knee not being taken.
Then both blamed the FL for no guidelines being issued.
Neither at any stage engaged in a serious discussion about why it was important, it was clear it had become a 'going through the motions' thing.
What's the problem? Racism is a scourge in society and has not gone away. It's good it gets highlighted in this way. When the players and clubs feel it's time to stop, they'll stop. Can't see how it should affect anyone here really
Despite the very important issues we saw at the Coventry v QPR game how the teams blamed each other for the knee not being taken.
Then both blamed the FL for no guidelines being issued.
Neither at any stage engaged in a serious discussion about why it was important, it was clear it had become a 'going through the motions' thing.
One game out of how many Simon? I’ve seen a lot of people want to talk about this outlier while ignoring what is actually a very impressive unity right across the world of football
Despite the very important issues we saw at the Coventry v QPR game how the teams blamed each other for the knee not being taken.
Then both blamed the FL for no guidelines being issued.
Neither at any stage engaged in a serious discussion about why it was important, it was clear it had become a 'going through the motions' thing.
One game out of how many Simon? I’ve seen a lot of people want to talk about this outlier while ignoring what is actually a very impressive unity right across the world of football
I don't disagree. My point though was how many people are doing it out of respect for the cause and how many just going through the motions.
Initially it made an impact, a bit like the clapping the NHS. Not sure it does now though.
Interesting it doesn't extend to non league either....the 3 games I have attended so far and no knee to be seen.