It would be a gamble and somewhat controversial given what he received a ban for. I doubt he would improve our defence. Given he has been out for a while it would no doubt take time to get fit and ready at any level, so it cannot be an immediate thing anyway.
Wasn't this one of if not the longest ban for a professional footballer and the club are talking this this cheat? I would rather have little Galach in central defence at least he puts some effort in than YorNOTwerthIT
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I have concerns about such a lengthy ban and believe there is a strong element of classism. I say this because a doctor who gets caught using can be back practising under supervision after six months if (s)he goes to rehab and stays clean, and can be practising without supervision after one year clean. I'm not saying it always happens that fast, but going the rehab route and agreeing to certain conditions can achieve this. Bear in mind I am referring to professionals who may have access to pharmaceutical versions of the relevant drugs. But, of course, GMC hearings aren't usually as newsworthy as pro footballers' indiscretions.
Yorwerth in my opinion was treated very harshly. Had drug and alcohol issues and got caught up in it. They wanted to make an example of him since he wanted to hide from doing the test(presumably to hide his horrific drug habit) He’s a top player and if he hasn’t lost his ability I’d take him back in a heartbeat. Maybe trial him?
Another issue with this sorry business relates to sporting performance and cheating. There was a time when sports performers were rightly banned because they took something that gave a performance advantage over opponents who weren't taking the drugs. Somewhere along the way, and I'm unclear about how, why, or when this happened, it became an incursion into sports people's private lives. Personally, if footballers or other sports people want to smoke weed when off the clock, I think it's no-one else's business, because you could hardly regard it as performance enhancing. Cocaine is debatable in that regard, but it ought not enhance performance unless stoned while playing - and even that is debatable.
Somewhere, it drifted from the prevention of cheating into a moralistic, role-model crusade.
A thought on this to maybe give a little food for thought: I will use Mo Salah as my example, not because I've any problem with him - quite the opposite - but he is the best-known Muslim player in the English league. In Muslim cultures, although more liberal Muslims partake, drinking alcohol is regarded as poor form and illegal in some places, yet he would not be tested for alcohol in a football urine test. Nor would any other players. Yet alcohol is no more performance enhancing than some other substances that are the subject of such tests. The role-model argument falls flat on its face like the proverbial drunkard, as some players over-indulge from time to time.
Once his ban is over, he will have paid a high price and it will be time to move on.
On footballing grounds I wouldn't resign him. Far too many mistakes at CB and he wouldn't get a game ahead of Craig, Tunnicliffe and Dallison. Probably competing with McNerney and Adebowale for a place in the stiffs.
Once his ban is over, he will have paid a high price and it will be time to move on.
On footballing grounds I wouldn't resign him. Far too many mistakes at CB and he wouldn't get a game ahead of Craig, Tunnicliffe and Dallison. Probably competing with McNerney and Adebowale for a place in the stiffs.
That is something I could go along with, as he did surrender possession a little more often than I would wish, and some of those instances cost us goals. However, I wouldn't want to avoid re-signing him on the grounds of a past drug problem.
Bit of a discussion on twitter with Erdem saying he is on contact with Yorwerth and his ban had finished.
Would you have him back?
Indeed - Good, tried and tested players are hard to come by, I thought Josh did well for us when he settled.
I would even go to South Wales and drive him here !!
JTG
I thought he was tested and tried ! ;-)
I think he was at least as good as the centre halfs we have now and he was performing to that standard while having drink and drug issues (I believe).
The very long ban would mean he would a season to get his legs back and so we would probably not be the best choice for him as we do not have a reserve side to play him in but I do believe that once you've done the time you have a right to start again.
Once his ban is over, he will have paid a high price and it will be time to move on.
On footballing grounds I wouldn't resign him. Far too many mistakes at CB and he wouldn't get a game ahead of Craig, Tunnicliffe and Dallison. Probably competing with McNerney and Adebowale for a place in the stiffs.
I know our language has dropped the hyphen from many words in recent years, but re-sign/resign is one where I wish it hadn't happened. Usually, context tells us which meaning is intended, but that's not always the case with re-sign/resign, especially as the opposite meaning can sometimes be inferred. Even worse if it comes on a line break and a hyphen is used to denote a word break at the end of a line.
Once his ban is over, he will have paid a high price and it will be time to move on.
On footballing grounds I wouldn't resign him. Far too many mistakes at CB and he wouldn't get a game ahead of Craig, Tunnicliffe and Dallison. Probably competing with McNerney and Adebowale for a place in the stiffs.
That is something I could go along with, as he did surrender possession a little more often than I would wish, and some of those instances cost us goals. However, I wouldn't want to avoid re-signing him on the grounds of a past drug problem.
Agreed. I wouldn't re-sign him on the basis that he wouldn't be an improvement on what we have already.
