The referee fees for the SSC are only £36.00 for a ref and £29.00 per assistant. Ok I appreciate that floodlighting may cost more and all these costs are accumulative but if we are pulling out for these types of fees then we are in serious financial trouble. The question that stands out for me is why can these non-league teams that survive on peanuts take place but as professional football club cannot? As Thad rightly pointed out we need to remember where we came from.
The costs of match officials can easily double when mileage is taken into account. And of course these are not the only costs. There is also the potential of an away game somewhere like Hastings or Chichester requiring coach travel.
Plus as the club have made clear there are already plenty of midweek games scheduled, hardly a Tuesday off in October or November.
The referee fees for the SSC are only £36.00 for a ref and £29.00 per assistant. Ok I appreciate that floodlighting may cost more and all these costs are accumulative but if we are pulling out for these types of fees then we are in serious financial trouble. The question that stands out for me is why can these non-league teams that survive on peanuts take place but as professional football club cannot? As Thad rightly pointed out we need to remember where we came from.
The costs of match officials can easily double when mileage is taken into account. And of course these are not the only costs. There is also the potential of an away game somewhere like Hastings or Chichester requiring coach travel.
Plus as the club have made clear there are already plenty of midweek games scheduled, hardly a Tuesday off in October or November.
fans must wonder how Hastings and Chichester manage to enter and we dont. As for doubling match official fees I very much doubt the FA will appoint a ref that has a day job such that he/she has to travel from one end of the county to the next.
As for doubling match official fees I very much doubt the FA will appoint a ref that has a day job such that he/she has to travel from one end of the county to the next.
Clearly what you believe and what happens in the real world are two different things.
For example Carl Brook, the ref in our QF last year comes from Hastings (that's 108 miles round trip in case you thought Hastings was 'local').
Seriously, why don't you accept that the club probably looked into this before making the decision.
The costs of match officials can easily double when mileage is taken into account. And of course these are not the only costs. There is also the potential of an away game somewhere like Hastings or Chichester requiring coach travel.
Plus as the club have made clear there are already plenty of midweek games scheduled, hardly a Tuesday off in October or November.
fans must wonder how Hastings and Chichester manage to enter and we dont. As for doubling match official fees I very much doubt the FA will appoint a ref that has a day job such that he/she has to travel from one end of the county to the next.
As for doubling match official fees I very much doubt the FA will appoint a ref that has a day job such that he/she has to travel from one end of the county to the next.
Clearly what you believe and what happens in the real world are two different things.
For example Carl Brook, the ref in our QF last year comes from Hastings (that's 108 miles round trip in case you thought Hastings was 'local').
Seriously, why don't you accept that the club probably looked into this before making the decision.
Thats still only about £65 in total for a ref hardly something that most fans of a L2 club would expect to be breaking the bank.
Thats still only about £65 in total for a ref hardly something that most fans of a L2 club would expect to be breaking the bank.
£65 wouldn't break the bank. But it isn't the only cost.Still you are the expert I guess.
no expert but probably asking what many Reds fans are...how come Lewes, Bexhill, Lancing, East Preston etc can enter this cup encurring costs and yet a L2 professional club cant.
£65 wouldn't break the bank. But it isn't the only cost.Still you are the expert I guess.
no expert but probably asking what many Reds fans are...how come Lewes, Bexhill, Lancing, East Preston etc can enter this cup encurring costs and yet a L2 professional club cant.
I thought someone had already explained to you that they are allowed to open their grounds to paying spectators, so might at least cover some of their costs?
no expert but probably asking what many Reds fans are...how come Lewes, Bexhill, Lancing, East Preston etc can enter this cup encurring costs and yet a L2 professional club cant.
I thought someone had already explained to you that they are allowed to open their grounds to paying spectators, so might at least cover some of their costs?
minimal costs covered by couple hundred if that. Crawley get some funding that filters down the pyramid allbeit we can perhaps agree nowhere near enough but far more income than other SSC (bar Brighton) participants. Playing at Horsham there must be strong argument fans also be let in so things equal themselves out or perhaps Crawley actually have an advantage in that more fans are likley to watch them than Pagham or Selsey etc.
Playing at Horsham there must be strong argument fans also be let in so things equal themselves out or perhaps Crawley actually have an advantage in that more fans are likley to watch them than Pagham or Selsey etc.
If it really was that easy that playing games at another ground was a way of getting round the rules then all National League clubs would have agreed groundsheets. If course in the real world it doesn't work that way.
Maybe you should give Erdem a ring, clearly you have all the answers that the combined resources of Crawley Town FC don't have.
Playing at Horsham there must be strong argument fans also be let in so things equal themselves out or perhaps Crawley actually have an advantage in that more fans are likley to watch them than Pagham or Selsey etc.
If it really was that easy that playing games at another ground was a way of getting round the rules then all National League clubs would have agreed groundsheets. If course in the real world it doesn't work that way.
Maybe you should give Erdem a ring, clearly you have all the answers that the combined resources of Crawley Town FC don't have.
no one knows what allowances could be made as we have played elsewhere as have other county sides. Cups may differ to league requirement so may not compare to National sides though Eastbourne I believe entered the SSC. The club referenced finances not ground use though of course these could be linked, the question many Reds fans will want to know is why we didnt enter and the official response infers costs. That in itself must send alarm bells. Crawley I believe had to request not entering the SSC so whats to stop other requests?
As for past reference to coach hire whilst im unaware where all Reds players live, many clubs insist its near training grounds and a few cars does the job...like Selsey, Haywards Heath and Newhaven will do...or do you think they will have official coach hire all sorted?
If Crawley are virtually solely reliant on fan revenue then the club really is stuffed. Yes fans buy merchandise and food etc when in person but dont forget many STH have already handed over large sums of money. The sort of money the likes of Saltdean can only dream of.
The referee fees for the SSC are only £36.00 for a ref and £29.00 per assistant. Ok I appreciate that floodlighting may cost more and all these costs are accumulative but if we are pulling out for these types of fees then we are in serious financial trouble. The question that stands out for me is why can these non-league teams that survive on peanuts take place but as professional football club cannot? As Thad rightly pointed out we need to remember where we came from.
The costs of match officials can easily double when mileage is taken into account. And of course these are not the only costs. There is also the potential of an away game somewhere like Hastings or Chichester requiring coach travel.
Plus as the club have made clear there are already plenty of midweek games scheduled, hardly a Tuesday off in October or November.
You aint making any sense mate the club have always played these cup matches and they use the players that wont make the 1st team so you need to think a bit. Its insulting to the smaller clubs in the county that Crawley think they are too big to enter. The club needs to remember where it came from but then perhaps you never been to Town Mead and stood in the pouring rain topping up a luke warm cup of bovril.
At the end of the day we aren't in this competition. No point arguing as to why this is happening. Let's move on and concentrate on the competitions that we are in
At the end of the day we aren't in this competition. No point arguing as to why this is happening. Let's move on and concentrate on the competitions that we are in
You aint making any sense mate the club have always played these cup matches and they use the players that wont make the 1st team so you need to think a bit. Its insulting to the smaller clubs in the county that Crawley think they are too big to enter. The club needs to remember where it came from but then perhaps you never been to Town Mead and stood in the pouring rain topping up a luke warm cup of bovril.
Yes, several years at Town Mead thanks. Football was totally different then, and the season wasn't condensed like it has been this season.
But as someone else said, its academic, the only people with the facts are those at the club and they have made what they think is the right call.