I don’t think Betsy can be more than 5 games from the sack now. 1 win in 9 is poor. The only saving grace so far is that the teams around us are doing so badly as well. In most seasons I would think 6 points out of 9 games would put you in the relegation zone. The good thing about this league is that only 2 go down so you have to spectacularly bad to get relegated. 5 more games and if we don’t see any improvement on results say 6 or 7 points and I think it’s time to cut our losses with Betsy. I know only 2 teams get relegated in this league and we should have enough quality in the squad to stay up, but I think if we leave it too much longer it could leave the next manager too big a job. Telford is fit now, we have Nadesan, Nichols and Telford in attack and that should be enough talent in attack to score goals and win games.
5 more?? If we havent won between now and the final whistle at home to Stevenage I think he'll be gone. The owners must be well aware how fans feel.
I guess there is no point reasoning with the sack em mob but I’ll give it a go, the goal Crewe scored came from an individual error by our best player, besides that Crawley had all the best chances. The stats are bunk as all those Crewe shots were just a collection of no hopers that dribbled well wide or massively over the bar, they would rate barely anything on xG. The game was largely very even
I get what you’re saying Steve and I do admire your optimism but there comes a point where you have to say this isn’t good enough something needs to change. It happened with Cioffi when a set of fans had a discussion with Ziya outside the ground as he was enjoying a smoke break with Erdem. He was sacked the next day.
Sure but the big difference is Cioffi got about 18 months near ish , not a month and a bit. Genuinely suprised the sack ‘im brigade are back despite the reasonable run of recent form and the fact that this wasn’t a crushing defeat. He must not lose a single game now to keep his job, I mean that’s a bit stiff eh
Is this the first time we've been reffed by a woman?
Crewe have the centre forward I was hoping we would go for in the summer (I'm not complaining about Telford. I just thought he was off to the champ or league 1). Decent player and will cause us problems. Edit: half decent name too.
Need a good result today.
Jim Baker
You called this right Jim we are lacking the Baker-Richardson type of player in the squad who created the goals for Dom last year. I’m hoping the new lad may grow into that role but it’s not a hit the ground running type of scenario here
I am glad I watched it on I Follow and did not pay to go to the game. It was lack Luster until the last 5 minutes before we started to play more positive football. if the players are playing to orders, then it just highlights that Besty has not got a clue how this league plays and what you need to do to win. He needs to either come up with a better more positive way to play or pack his bags. He is just a replay of the other academy managers we have had all badges but not a clue how proper league football is played to win.
Only two people think Betsy is the right man, Steve and Preston Johnson. Says it all
what tosh, it's the small hub of moaners who don't seem to want to give Betsy a chance. Were more or less where we normally are with a brand new everything - lets give the guy a fighting chance!
I am glad I watched it on I Follow and did not pay to go to the game. It was lack Luster until the last 5 minutes before we started to play more positive football. if the players are playing to orders, then it just highlights that Besty has not got a clue how this league plays and what you need to do to win. He needs to either come up with a better more positive way to play or pack his bags. He is just a replay of the other academy managers we have had all badges but not a clue how proper league football is played to win.
I don’t think Betsy can be more than 5 games from the sack now. 1 win in 9 is poor. The only saving grace so far is that the teams around us are doing so badly as well. In most seasons I would think 6 points out of 9 games would put you in the relegation zone. The good thing about this league is that only 2 go down so you have to spectacularly bad to get relegated. 5 more games and if we don’t see any improvement on results say 6 or 7 points and I think it’s time to cut our losses with Betsy. I know only 2 teams get relegated in this league and we should have enough quality in the squad to stay up, but I think if we leave it too much longer it could leave the next manager too big a job. Telford is fit now, we have Nadesan, Nichols and Telford in attack and that should be enough talent in attack to score goals and win games.
5 more?? If we havent won between now and the final whistle at home to Stevenage I think he'll be gone. The owners must be well aware how fans feel.
About time the fans took a reality check and didn't rush to condemn a guy who hasn't had a chance to prove himself. We aren't going down and already this year have had some superb wins- time for a reality check guys
Im too angry to say much now all i will say is the longer it takes to remove Betsy the longer this club is going under. Enough in enough. He aint good enough.
nothing new here pottage - do you really think he is doing any worse than a number of managers we have had in recent times?
Only two people think Betsy is the right man, Steve and Preston Johnson. Says it all
what tosh, it's the small hub of moaners who don't seem to want to give Betsy a chance. Were more or less where we normally are with a brand new everything - lets give the guy a fighting chance!
'Shezza' and 'Hilly' are twiddling their thumbs as I speak. Both are 'proper football men' who have experience of getting teams out of this league
Only two people think Betsy is the right man, Steve and Preston Johnson. Says it all
what tosh, it's the small hub of moaners who don't seem to want to give Betsy a chance. Were more or less where we normally are with a brand new everything - lets give the guy a fighting chance!
Absolutely clueless!! Priceless, 0.5 points a game is normal?! That’s 23 points a season and that’s where we normally are? You haven’t a brain! What part of top3 budget do you not understand? is that normal for Crawley?
Every organisation has performance targets to be achieved at set milestones.
I would be intrigued to know what CTFC's are, and how we are faring in relation to them
I can't decide if our owners are remarkably cool, confident or clueless.
They have bet a lot on an unknown quantity in Betsy. They hope to win big, but are rich enough to walk away and move onto another project to amuse themselves if it doesn't work out. That concerns me
Blind faith in Betsy and the process is a mug's game. Broken things can be fixed, but you need someone who knows what they're doing to do that properly
Perhaps they and the manager know what they are doing and need some time to formulate the ideas fully. Knee jerk reactions aren't helpful
5 more?? If we havent won between now and the final whistle at home to Stevenage I think he'll be gone. The owners must be well aware how fans feel.
About time the fans took a reality check and didn't rush to condemn a guy who hasn't had a chance to prove himself. We aren't going down and already this year have had some superb wins- time for a reality check guys
get a grip man. Look at yourself you are making yourself look silly. We have not been equipped for league 2 since Carlisle. Its a ****** mirracle Betsy hasnt been.run outta town already one way or another. The guy hasnt got it in him and is looking weaker each week. The reds are in SERIOUS danger of dropping into oblivion of non-league to NEVER return yes NEVER. We are only going one way with Betsy and thats DOWN. Take a ******* reality check!!!!!
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About time the fans took a reality check and didn't rush to condemn a guy who hasn't had a chance to prove himself. We aren't going down and already this year have had some superb wins- time for a reality check guys
get a grip man. Look at yourself you are making yourself look silly. We have not been equipped for league 2 since Carlisle. Its a ****** mirracle Betsy hasnt been.run outta town already one way or another. The guy hasnt got it in him and is looking weaker each week. The reds are in SERIOUS danger of dropping into oblivion of non-league to NEVER return yes NEVER. We are only going one way with Betsy and thats DOWN. Take a ******* reality check!!!!!
Thanks Nick - we are obviously polar planets apart on this. I really think it's the minority calling for his head that are looking for a quick fix that won't come by getting rid of Betsy. Hes young and learning as are the team and they need the time and our support to do just that. Reacting to every defeat with a call for his head seems to me to be an excuse to change things for the sake of it. Weve had a whole host of managers here in recent years and none of them except stevie Evans has done anything!! Betsy is doing no worse than a number before him and given time could well exceed many others. His reputation allows us to get quality young players in who we would never get a sniff of otherwise. Apologies if you think I am naive or looking silly but I can't see any reason to not give hm a chance and I am enjoying many games much more than previous years - although hands up I haven't been away yet this year.