Certainly an experienced player and it seems he has no place in the Portsmouth league set up, from what I've read I'd have thought he'd be looking for a permanent transfer though, do we actually need any midfielders? personally I don't think so with Morais and Vincelot to come back and then Smith later on, my money would always be on a striker or some strengthening at the back, especially if Maguire is going back to Fleetwood
After the Colchester game, I asked Romain Vincelot how his injury was and I was told “Injury? I am not injured “.
Certainly an experienced player and it seems he has no place in the Portsmouth league set up, from what I've read I'd have thought he'd be looking for a permanent transfer though, do we actually need any midfielders? personally I don't think so with Morais and Vincelot to come back and then Smith later on, my money would always be on a striker or some strengthening at the back, especially if Maguire is going back to Fleetwood
After the Colchester game, I asked Romain Vincelot how his injury was and I was told “Injury? I am not injured “.
JTG
Another one who was not on the managers Christmas card list, I was there when JTG asked him so it seems he is being frozen out. How he is not playing in midfield in front of Payne who is to slow and can only kick with his right foot I just don't understand.
Post by townmeadleftover on Jan 3, 2019 11:18:50 GMT
If that's the case then I very much hope that Vincelot leaves during January and finds a club that will make use of his experience, it's a total waste of money if he and Randall have been frozen out, money that's needed elsewhere in the squad
What about Maguire though? it's the 3rd today and his loan expired on the 1st, why have the club not said "thanks for your efforts" or announced an extension?
Just as I say that it's been announced on the Fleetwood Weekly News site that Maguire has had his loan extended until the end of the season
What about Maguire though? it's the 3rd today and his loan expired on the 1st, why have the club not said "thanks for your efforts" or announced an extension?
Gee, it's almost like they've been negotiating it behind the scenes without wanting to play it out for the masses until a deal had been reached...!
Rumour mill on twitter so take it with a pinch of salt but apparently Danny rose will join the reds on loan shortly from Portsmouth. Thoughts?
A good player who can come in and replace Randell who has never looked good enough and now seemingly banished from the match day squad would be a welcome addition who would be perfect until Smith comes back to the fold after injury
If that's the case then I very much hope that Vincelot leaves during January and finds a club that will make use of his experience, it's a total waste of money if he and Randall have been frozen out...
Well folks, some things never change at Crawley Town, so how about a crackpot conspiracy theory to start the year.
On Monday i got a few sets of tickets from the club shop, taking advantage of the two for a tenner promo.. and bumped into an old associate outside the stadium. We had a giggle about things & I asked about what rumours are in the air..
...i was told that there are strong reasons to think that the owners had got a decent offer to buy the club...
..but here is the cruncher...
apparently... certain players are being deliberately kept wrapped in cotton wool, to ensure they are of merchantable quality in January, allegedly with a view to capitalise on any saleable assets before selling up and doing a runner.
Of course, once they had recounted the tale to me, we both laughed at the sheer daftness of how some people are able to dream up this type of nonsense.
I had completely forgotten all about it.. until i saw this thread about players being frozen out... Happy New Year.
Cor...conspiracy theory...but, we could be cheaper to buy in the conference? The saleable assets are: - Palmer, Morais (poss), Vincelot and ?? Panuche?
Cor...conspiracy theory...but, we could be cheaper to buy in the conference? The saleable assets are: - Palmer, Morais (poss), Vincelot and ?? Panuche?
Whilst they are assets of a sort, they are classed as intangible assets at the time of purchase, In other words; if a player cost £300,000 and signed on a three year contract, with amortisation (they are not depreciated as they are not tangible assets) after 1 year, with 2 years left on their contract their intangible asset value would decrease to £200,000.
So, the logic goes that at the end of their contract their value is £0.
Now you do of course have the scenario where a player improves or becomes more desirable during the lifetime of their contract. Again, this value is only recognised when a transfer takes place. A bit like a product "Brand", it can only be revalued at the point of sale. Without a sale it's effectively worthless in cash terms.
And now you get to see why transfer fees are so low in the lower leagues compared to the astronomical fees in the top flight. If you've got a player who was picked up for £50k on a three year deal and he's got a year of his contract left, unless he's setting the world alight (And shoot me down in flames here by all means, but I doubt we'd have them at Crawley in this case... ) then the value of that player is very unlikely to be much above £20k.
Now, to counter all of that, whilst the players do represent an intangible asset, they also represent a liability in terms of wages. So whilst you may have a player worth £20k, it's going to cost you more than that in wages to keep them.
That's fine if it keeps you ticking over as a club, but if you're looking at this from a strategic investment perspective, you wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
So to summarise, what you're buying is League 2 Football Club status. And with the current balance sheet (like the vast majority of other League 1 and 2 Football Clubs) you're only going to enter into this with the expectation of losing money. Lots of it.
As the old adage goes: How do you get £1m out of a League 2 Football Club? Start with £2m...!
If that's the case then I very much hope that Vincelot leaves during January and finds a club that will make use of his experience, it's a total waste of money if he and Randall have been frozen out...
Well folks, some things never change at Crawley Town, so how about a crackpot conspiracy theory to start the year.
On Monday i got a few sets of tickets from the club shop, taking advantage of the two for a tenner promo.. and bumped into an old associate outside the stadium. We had a giggle about things & I asked about what rumours are in the air..
...i was told that there are strong reasons to think that the owners had got a decent offer to buy the club...
..but here is the cruncher...
apparently... certain players are being deliberately kept wrapped in cotton wool, to ensure they are of merchantable quality in January, allegedly with a view to capitalise on any saleable assets before selling up and doing a runner.
Of course, once they had recounted the tale to me, we both laughed at the sheer daftness of how some people are able to dream up this type of nonsense.
I had completely forgotten all about it.. until i saw this thread about players being frozen out... Happy New Year.
Cor...conspiracy theory...but, we could be cheaper to buy in the conference? The saleable assets are: - Palmer, Morais (poss), Vincelot and ?? Panuche?
Whilst they are assets of a sort, they are classed as intangible assets at the time of purchase, In other words; if a player cost £300,000 and signed on a three year contract, with amortisation (they are not depreciated as they are not tangible assets) after 1 year, with 2 years left on their contract their intangible asset value would decrease to £200,000.
So, the logic goes that at the end of their contract their value is £0.
Now you do of course have the scenario where a player improves or becomes more desirable during the lifetime of their contract. Again, this value is only recognised when a transfer takes place. A bit like a product "Brand", it can only be revalued at the point of sale. Without a sale it's effectively worthless in cash terms.
And now you get to see why transfer fees are so low in the lower leagues compared to the astronomical fees in the top flight. If you've got a player who was picked up for £50k on a three year deal and he's got a year of his contract left, unless he's setting the world alight (And shoot me down in flames here by all means, but I doubt we'd have them at Crawley in this case... ) then the value of that player is very unlikely to be much above £20k.
Now, to counter all of that, whilst the players do represent an intangible asset, they also represent a liability in terms of wages. So whilst you may have a player worth £20k, it's going to cost you more than that in wages to keep them.
That's fine if it keeps you ticking over as a club, but if you're looking at this from a strategic investment perspective, you wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.
So to summarise, what you're buying is League 2 Football Club status. And with the current balance sheet (like the vast majority of other League 1 and 2 Football Clubs) you're only going to enter into this with the expectation of losing money. Lots of it.
As the old adage goes: How do you get £1m out of a League 2 Football Club? Start with £2m...!
Coming on here with your common sense and knowledgeable approach how dare you Sir how bloody dare you but in all fairness a great read and some interesting points so thanks for taking the time to post Mat i enjoyed reading it