England v Czech Republic and Scotland v Croatia

paulc222
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England v Czech Republic and Scotland v Croatia Jun 22, 2021 8:53:33 GMT

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Post by paulc222 on Jun 22, 2021 8:53:33 GMT

A draw is no good to Scotland or Croatia, so both should be going for the win, especially if still level after an hour or so.

England and Czech Republic look set to qualify whatever happens, but a draw would make totally certain. Unofficial collusion made to look like non-collusion?

George Administrator Posts: 4,204	England v Czech Republic and Scotland v Croatia Jun 22, 2021 9:57:23 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by George on Jun 22, 2021 9:57:23 GMT England HAVE ALREADY QUALIFIED (Minimum 3rd place due to other results already) news.sky.com/story/euro-2020-england-qualify-for-knockout-phase-without-kicking-a-ball-12338227
	Last Edit: Jun 22, 2021 9:59:23 GMT by George

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England v Czech Republic and Scotland v Croatia Jun 22, 2021 10:36:09 GMT

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Post by paulc222 on Jun 22, 2021 10:36:09 GMT

Jun 22, 2021 9:57:23 GMT George said:

England HAVE ALREADY QUALIFIED (Minimum 3rd place due to other results already) news.sky.com/story/euro-2020-england-qualify-for-knockout-phase-without-kicking-a-ball-12338227

Yes, I realised soon after posting that two groups already have third placed teams on three points. I thought it was only one group until I checked shortly after posting.

EDIT: The Sky article doesn't mention that Italy have also qualified.

I haven't looked into it but I'm wondering how France, Portugal, and Germany ended up in the same group in a competition that has some degree of seeding.

Last Edit: Jun 22, 2021 10:41:52 GMT by paulc222

George Administrator Posts: 4,204	England v Czech Republic and Scotland v Croatia Jun 22, 2021 11:27:33 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by George on Jun 22, 2021 11:27:33 GMT Southgate questions how only Billy G needs to self isolate for the Scots (all in the same changing room) yet surely the same argument can be used for all the England players?

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England v Czech Republic and Scotland v Croatia Jun 22, 2021 11:29:42 GMT

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Post by WestStandMan on Jun 22, 2021 11:29:42 GMT

Jun 22, 2021 8:53:33 GMT paulc222 said:

A draw is no good to Scotland or Croatia, so both should be going for the win, especially if still level after an hour or so.

England and Czech Republic look set to qualify whatever happens, but a draw would make totally certain. Unofficial collusion made to look like non-collusion?

On this basis, it maybe better to watch the Scotland v Croatia game than the England game although I hope that the England performance tonight is not as dull as last Friday!

Last Edit: Jun 22, 2021 11:29:55 GMT by WestStandMan

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England v Czech Republic and Scotland v Croatia Jun 22, 2021 11:34:44 GMT paulc222 likes this

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Post by WestStandMan on Jun 22, 2021 11:34:44 GMT

Jun 22, 2021 10:36:09 GMT paulc222 said:

Jun 22, 2021 9:57:23 GMT George said:

England HAVE ALREADY QUALIFIED (Minimum 3rd place due to other results already) news.sky.com/story/euro-2020-england-qualify-for-knockout-phase-without-kicking-a-ball-12338227

Yes, I realised soon after posting that two groups already have third placed teams on three points. I thought it was only one group until I checked shortly after posting.

EDIT: The Sky article doesn't mention that Italy have also qualified.

I haven't looked into it but I'm wondering how France, Portugal, and Germany ended up in the same group in a competition that has some degree of seeding.

Totally agree that it is strange that 3 "big" teams ended up in the same group.
Ukraine were in Pot 1?!!

Found this online and have copied relevant part: -

The pots

The teams are seeded based on their qualifying record, meaning that Wales and debutants Finland are in Pot Four with the as-yet-unknown play-off winners. World champions France are in Pot Two; Euro 2016 and Nations League winners Portugal are in Pot Three.

Pot One: Belgium, Italy, England, Germany, Spain, Ukraine.

Pot Two: France, Poland, Switzerland, Croatia, Netherlands, Russia.

Pot Three: Portugal, Turkey, Denmark, Austria, Sweden, Czech Republic.

Pot Four: Wales and Finland, plus the four play-off winners.

Last Edit: Jun 22, 2021 11:36:00 GMT by WestStandMan

paulc222 Ultimate Member Posts: 2,898	England v Czech Republic and Scotland v Croatia Jun 23, 2021 10:07:31 GMT George and ashdownred like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by paulc222 on Jun 23, 2021 10:07:31 GMT At least Scotland didn't have to travel far to go home.

England v Czech Republic and Scotland v Croatia

Post by paulc222 on Jun 22, 2021 8:53:33 GMT

Post by George on Jun 22, 2021 9:57:23 GMT

Post by paulc222 on Jun 22, 2021 10:36:09 GMT

Post by George on Jun 22, 2021 11:27:33 GMT

Post by WestStandMan on Jun 22, 2021 11:29:42 GMT

Post by WestStandMan on Jun 22, 2021 11:34:44 GMT

Post by paulc222 on Jun 23, 2021 10:07:31 GMT