Thad goes too far - a confession & apology

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Thad goes too far - a confession & apology Oct 20, 2022 10:09:44 GMT

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Post by thad on Oct 20, 2022 10:09:44 GMT

I have returned too late to catch the recent forum exchanges and do not wish to re-open them.

I promise to be back soon - hopefully later on tonight or tomorrow - and will unreservedly apologise to the individuals concerned.

I genuinely have seriously urgent stuff occupying my time at the moment, but If you can all please behave yourselves.
I will make it clear that I am the sole villain of the piece, hopefully all protagonists can move on with honour satisfied.

In the meantime, no speculating, all will become apparent.

Later Dudes.

Last Edit: Oct 20, 2022 10:10:22 GMT by thad

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Thad goes too far - a confession & apology Oct 21, 2022 7:52:43 GMT jb and GBred like this

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Post by thad on Oct 21, 2022 7:52:43 GMT

Here Goes...

I had given an undertaking to someone very close, to keep my visits & posts on the forum to an absolute minimum and specifically resist personality disputes.

They were alongside me throughout a time when they believed a previous situation at CTFC made me lose perspective, over-commit and allow it to dominate my focus as matters escalated. They were incredibly supportive during that spell and I clearly owe them for the disruption I put them through.

They could spot the early warning signs before the current season kicked off and made it clear that my time & energy was already fully accounted for, I could see they were right.

None of which justifies my actions.

I did a bad thing to cleverly (I thought) meet that criteria and now issue an apology unreservedly to Admin & Users of the forum for having to witness the consequence.
Plus:

An unqualified & sincere personal apology to Steve for any insult or damage to his reputation and specifically any mention of hypocrisy or lies.

And I offer the same to Redtiger for encouraging him to do my dirty work (he was good at it too) and misleading him into repeating (in good faith) my accusations.

And I should make it clear that he did exercise caution when approached, but I genuinely believe that I had first-hand PLUS independent testimony to corroborate the claim.

However, I committed a cardinal error in failing to liaise with the independent witness, after releasing the Tiger and prior to potentially involving them.

My testimony on its one was never likely to be sufficient (although I did offer to verify it via PM) and in any case I was too busy to follow-up the argument.

I have not provided details about what specifically provoked me in the first place - I should have responded in the appropriate thread - as I do not want to distract from the apology.

And lastly - there is a lesson here that you should never highlight “serious & credible” allegations, until you have satisfied yourself that you can prove them…!

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Thad goes too far - a confession & apology Oct 21, 2022 11:57:43 GMT jb likes this

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Post by steve on Oct 21, 2022 11:57:43 GMT

You were on this forum last year when during the height of the injury crisis of September-Novermber 2021, I defended John Yems' record as manager to the hilt and aggressively pushed back on any suggestion he should be sacked for that difficult period of losses - it's all on the threads on this forum if any one wants to look.

So when you made the claim recently that I had called for Yems' sacking, I did correct you and I thought your reply straight away was reasonable in terms of you admitting that your information may not be correct. I have no real issue with this, mistakes happen and I make plenty myself. I could see how you had made the mistake, I know at least six other Steves who follow Crawley Town, there may be many more, I don't know.

However, there was another forum user Redtiger who peddled this lie constantly across 3 threads on nearly a dozen occasions, even though I corrected him straight away at the first instance. And he carried on doing it in a pretty obnoxious and toxic way. This is the person who really owes me the apology.

The moderators George and Alex should remove those posts from this forum

Last Edit: Oct 21, 2022 11:58:32 GMT by steve

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Thad goes too far - a confession & apology Oct 21, 2022 12:42:52 GMT

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Post by thad on Oct 21, 2022 12:42:52 GMT

Oct 21, 2022 11:57:43 GMT steve said:

You were on this forum last year when during the height of the injury crisis of September-Novermber 2021, I defended John Yems' record as manager to the hilt and aggressively pushed back on any suggestion he should be sacked for that difficult period of losses - it's all on the threads on this forum if any one wants to look.

So when you made the claim recently that I had called for Yems' sacking, I did correct you and I thought your reply straight away was reasonable in terms of you admitting that your information may not be correct. I have no real issue with this, mistakes happen and I make plenty myself. I could see how you had made the mistake, I know at least six other Steves who follow Crawley Town, there may be many more, I don't know.

However, there was another forum user Redtiger who peddled this lie constantly across 3 threads on nearly a dozen occasions, even though I corrected him straight away at the first instance. And he carried on doing it in a pretty obnoxious and toxic way. This is the person who really owes me the apology.

The moderators George and Alex should remove those posts from this forum

Steve, I screwed up and am entirely culpable, he is as much a victim as you.

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Thad goes too far - a confession & apology Oct 21, 2022 12:47:52 GMT jb likes this

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Post by steve on Oct 21, 2022 12:47:52 GMT

Oct 21, 2022 12:42:52 GMT thad said:

Oct 21, 2022 11:57:43 GMT steve said:

You were on this forum last year when during the height of the injury crisis of September-Novermber 2021, I defended John Yems' record as manager to the hilt and aggressively pushed back on any suggestion he should be sacked for that difficult period of losses - it's all on the threads on this forum if any one wants to look.

So when you made the claim recently that I had called for Yems' sacking, I did correct you and I thought your reply straight away was reasonable in terms of you admitting that your information may not be correct. I have no real issue with this, mistakes happen and I make plenty myself. I could see how you had made the mistake, I know at least six other Steves who follow Crawley Town, there may be many more, I don't know.

However, there was another forum user Redtiger who peddled this lie constantly across 3 threads on nearly a dozen occasions, even though I corrected him straight away at the first instance. And he carried on doing it in a pretty obnoxious and toxic way. This is the person who really owes me the apology.

The moderators George and Alex should remove those posts from this forum

Steve, I screwed up and am entirely culpable, he is as much a victim as you.

I explained why that is not the case, it's a dozen examples of malicious trolling compared to your one, and your one you immediately relented on as any normal person acting in good faith would. Given I'm the one who has been lied about here, I think I'm the one entitled to say what is owed to me?

Last Edit: Oct 21, 2022 12:53:10 GMT by steve