I am Fed up with most of you fans thinking Mid Table is ok! I have been to watch Crawley 57 times AWAY from home in the last 10 years. Any match North of Northampton I was probably there (ex pandemic)! I have seen bad Crawley Players, Bad Crawley Teams over the last 10 years. In December 2020 I recognized this Group as being the best Group of Players ever assembled at Crawley. This is mainly down to the Scouting Talents of John Yems. But while Steve McClaren was a GREAT Training Ground Coach that didnt make him a GREAT Manager as we all know! This Group of Players we had at our disposal in Decemeber 2020 should have got Promoted - Simple as that - and for most of you lot to think Mid Table is ok is Totally Wrong! We should be TOP of the Table had the Management & Owners made the Corect Decisions. Unbelievable mistakes have been made with the Greatest Bunch of Talent this club will ever see!
Think you have the rose tinted glasses on about the squad which is just another run of the mill league two outfit and all credit to Yems for what he has been able to do. Easy to harp on about bad results but like it or not being realistic we are maybe just over reaching at present rather than under achieving.
I am Fed up with most of you fans thinking Mid Table is ok! I have been to watch Crawley 57 times AWAY from home in the last 10 years. Any match North of Northampton I was probably there (ex pandemic)! I have seen bad Crawley Players, Bad Crawley Teams over the last 10 years. In December 2020 I recognized this Group as being the best Group of Players ever assembled at Crawley. This is mainly down to the Scouting Talents of John Yems. But while Steve McClaren was a GREAT Training Ground Coach that didnt make him a GREAT Manager as we all know! This Group of Players we had at our disposal in Decemeber 2020 should have got Promoted - Simple as that - and for most of you lot to think Mid Table is ok is Totally Wrong! We should be TOP of the Table had the Management & Owners made the Corect Decisions. Unbelievable mistakes have been made with the Greatest Bunch of Talent this club will ever see!
We’ve discussed this on the forum before, In my opinion I don’t think promotion would be great for us anyway. When we did get promoted to League 1 our attendance only increased marginally and we had (like we do now) a bottom half budget. Until we build up a fan base or have multi-billionaire investors which you’ll find is very rare for a club at our level we are better off staying in league 2 as we wouldn’t last long in league 1 anyway. It’s a hard pill to swallow but it’s reality it’s a shame the people of this town don’t show the same enthusiasm for the club and sell out the attendance every week like we do when we play against a big side🤷♂️. I think the fact that Yems/Bradbury and the Owner and his team have gotten us in the top half of the table with a low budget using this new model of finding lower league gems just shows how good our scouting is and that we’re willing to give youngsters and rejects a chance.
I completely disagree. You cannot possibly judge solely oo our last trip up. We were a very new professional club then. There is massive support for football in the area and whilst we have competition from seaweed and Rottenham and Westhamlet and upyourarsenal etc., these money grabbers will not attract everyone. The fans come. Built it and they will come. Maintain it and they will stay. You cannot expect fans to just turn up on the whim they may have a good product down the line. Not everyone is a season ticket holder. The best things that could possibly happen to this football club is promotion. That is undisputable!
Last Edit: Mar 21, 2021 19:24:56 GMT by peespottage
The best things that could possibly happen to this football club is promotion. That is undisputable!
One man's undisputable is another man's unsustainable...
IMHO... The best thing that can happen to this club is a trip to Wembley in the play-off final, when we are ready for it.
But hey-ho why just settle for League one...? I am fed up with the fans of this club not thinking that we should be challenging the top teams in Europe & in the Champions League final every season...!
The best things that could possibly happen to this football club is promotion. That is undisputable!
One man's undisputable is another man's unsustainable...
IMHO... The best thing that can happen to this club is a trip to Wembley in the play-off final, when we are ready for it.
But hey-ho why just settle for League one...? I am fed up with the fans of this club not thinking that we should be challenging the top teams in Europe & in the Champions League final every season...!
A play off final at Wembley a chance to attend in person I can't think of anything better to look forward to. Bring it on, COYR!
But hey-ho why just settle for League one...? I am fed up with the fans of this club not thinking that we should be challenging the top teams in Europe & in the Champions League final every season...!
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You complete Muppet Thad, call yourself a fan, you are typical of that petty minded provincial numpties with no aspirations. Crawley Town FC should rightfully be world champions & we should not settle for anything less. The sooner these greedy owners realise that and stop selling players just for profit, Finally sack Yems send the Wright Brothers back to Kitty Hawk, North Carolina AND get a plan B thru F The better! Yours Mrs. Trellis"
We’ve discussed this on the forum before, In my opinion I don’t think promotion would be great for us anyway. When we did get promoted to League 1 our attendance only increased marginally and we had (like we do now) a bottom half budget. Until we build up a fan base or have multi-billionaire investors which you’ll find is very rare for a club at our level we are better off staying in league 2 as we wouldn’t last long in league 1 anyway. It’s a hard pill to swallow but it’s reality it’s a shame the people of this town don’t show the same enthusiasm for the club and sell out the attendance every week like we do when we play against a big side🤷♂️. I think the fact that Yems/Bradbury and the Owner and his team have gotten us in the top half of the table with a low budget using this new model of finding lower league gems just shows how good our scouting is and that we’re willing to give youngsters and rejects a chance.
I completely disagree. You cannot possibly judge solely oo our last trip up. We were a very new professional club then. There is massive support for football in the area and whilst we have competition from seaweed and Rottenham and Westhamlet and upyourarsenal etc., these money grabbers will not attract everyone. The fans come. Built it and they will come. Maintain it and they will stay. You cannot expect fans to just turn up on the whim they may have a good product down the line. Not everyone is a season ticket holder. The best things that could possibly happen to this football club is promotion. That is undisputable!
The thing is PP, we did build it once before and they didn’t come. We took nearly 10,000 to Old Trafford in February 2011, yet over the next 2 years, we couldn’t even get 40% of that number to bother to go and watch the team play at home on a regular basis. Think of all the momentum we had with successive promotions and successive appearances in the FA Cup 5th round, but it seemingly still wasn’t enough to significantly grow the fan base.
That said, as you rightly say, it’s not easy to go from being in non-league one minute to league one the next and expect the fan base to jump up accordingly in such a short space of time. So I see what you’re saying, that we’re now an established football league club so it’s not such a sudden jump. However, we get (or getting) gates of just over 2,000 generally, with variation subject to the size of the away following. Would that number suddenly jump up to 3,000-plus if we got promotion? I’m not so sure, but there’s only one way to find out, and I’m sure none of us would turn down the opportunity to find out!!
Still waiting for you to confirm who you are Crawley57. I mean you’ve obviously played, managed and administered at a high level in the game.
I don't see that this matters. It is a public forum and anyone and everyone is welcome. The fact that he (she) chooses to remain anonymous behind a generic user name is no different to most of us on here.
The more posters, the better the forum will be and if the views of some posters on here prevent the forum from becoming a confirmatory echo chamber and challenge our own perceptions, then all the better.
Still waiting for you to confirm who you are Crawley57. I mean you’ve obviously played, managed and administered at a high level in the game.
I don't see that this matters. It is a public forum and anyone and everyone is welcome. The fact that he (she) chooses to remain anonymous behind a generic user name is no different to most of us on here.
The more posters, the better the forum will be and if the views of some posters on here prevent the forum from becoming a confirmatory echo chamber and challenge our own perceptions, then all the better.
While it is frustrating that our following is not greater considering our local population but all clubs crowds increase with success and prior to lockdown I was encouraged by the increase in the number of younger supporters at games,just maybe the stigma of supporting Crawley instead of one the London clubs is starting to wain.
Still waiting for you to confirm who you are Crawley57. I mean you’ve obviously played, managed and administered at a high level in the game.
I don't see that this matters. It is a public forum and anyone and everyone is welcome. The fact that he (she) chooses to remain anonymous behind a generic user name is no different to most of us on here.
The more posters, the better the forum will be and if the views of some posters on here prevent the forum from becominga confirmatory echo chamber and challenge our own perceptions, then all the better.
I understand it may be too slow for some, but we are doing a lot of things right, even in defeat the football is - generally - worth watching. Given we have just completed a year of turmoil, we are in pretty good nick and have a decent base to build on.
Would the home crowds be that different between the lower half of L1 & the top half of L2 next season...? Particularly with a strong possibility of AFC Deluded & Sutton Utd also both being in L2.
Of course, a day out at Wembley could make a huge difference on many levels, but I think even that would be a season too early this year.